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Re: carlisle pier

Post by cambria49 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:56 am

I understand what you're saying, but don't mistake the asbestos walkway/waiting hall as being historically important. It has to be realised that it was erected in 1953 with an expected lifespan of no more than 25 years. The Harbour Company inherited a dilapidated, life-expired facility in the early 90's. To carry it through, they rebuilt the concourse and replaced the dangerous railway station roof. What has recently been removed is not of historical importance, with the exception of the iron pillars that support the roof. They have been retained and will, as I understand it, be restored.

I think the plans to have large glass buildings on the pier have long gone - rushed away with the economy, that whole project was shelved. Instead I see a partial restoration to former glory, with a berth for visiting cruise ships. This is not being realised amidst the howls of protest over the removal of a temporary asbestos building.



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Re: carlisle pier

Post by grammer » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:12 am

- yes to certain degree Im with you all the way and gaaawd knows the town needs some kind of revival -the cruise ships would be a lifesaver-but would the town loose out to dublin port who are going all out to attract the same cruise ships -
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at the moment and for the forseeable future the carlise is now a small source of revenue as a carpark for the harbour board --
so I suppose its a wait and see --
interesting tho'


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Post by cambria49 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:29 am

The beauty of Dun Laoghaire over Dublin Port is just that, beauty! The passengers are not arriving in the middle of an industrial port. Plus there is the issue of congestion which D/L doesn't have. The berth would be a dedicated cruise facility. It would also cater for the smaller boutique cruise ships as the max length the Carlisle Pier could accommodate in its present capacity is around 140 metres. This can be extended if the car ramp structure is removed.

This isn't just my pipe dream by the way, the Harbour Company is actively seeking this business.



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Post by Strum » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:36 pm

Great posts Cambria, very informative. I knew you wouldn't be able to ignore these posts with you're history of the Port. :D



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Post by cambria49 » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:23 am

No harm using it for parking while it's vacant. Heaven knows they need revenue from somewhere following the significant reduction in ferry sailings in recent years.



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Post by cambria49 » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:35 am

Strum wrote:Great posts Cambria, very informative. I knew you wouldn't be able to ignore these posts with you're history of the Port. :D
Thanks Strum - I think it is important that the facts are known so proper opinion can be formed.



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Post by spudseamus » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:31 am

yes great posting Cambria :)



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Post by Denis Cromie » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:37 pm

Great info Cambria, good to hear a positive view of the pier.



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Post by Enviro500 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:43 pm

Cambria,
Best idea in years and indeed what an entry to Ireland...City, mountains and 'The Ancient' too.. brilliant idea and about time

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Post by cambria49 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:55 am

Erecting the terminal on the Carlisle Pier in 1953. Justin Merrigan Collection.
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Post by Strum » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:35 pm

Great shot there Justin. And the Cambria aswell.



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Post by Enviro500 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:40 pm

Cambria,
What can I say, needs to join my collection of your books already
Great job.
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Post by cambria49 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:54 pm

Hope you got your copy Enviro!



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Post by spudseamus » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:12 am

ill get one for the auld man!! :D



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Post by Rocker » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:49 pm

I am revelling in looking at these old ferry posts today. This is a piece of history we are living through and you are great to record it. We used to run to DunLaoghaire a couple of times a week to see the boat coming in as we raced along Salthill we would see it on the horizon and galloped along to see it enter the harbour. Our link with the outside world and when I first went third class on the Maud I thought I had died and gone to heaven to be actually on the mailaboat. It was a different era.


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Post by Strum » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:54 pm

Sure are different times Rocker. I remember as a kid the crowds on the Pier waving at the Mailboat.

You might enjoy this...

This is an Artist I know and it's very interesting where she did Artist in residence on the Carlisle Pier. :D

Julie Merriman - Carlisle Pier

In 2006 Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council and Dún Laoghaire Harbour Company supported by the Arts Council commissioned Julie Merriman to map changes and developments at Dún Laoghaire Harbour over the course of five years. This dvd marks the end of the residency and affords an opportunity to see how Julie’s work developed in response to this environment over the five year period. It focuses on the various series of drawings made in response to the site’s history, changing circumstances and how an artist’s work changes over time. The dvd was directed and produced by artist Michael McLoughlin.



http://vimeo.com/28975203



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Post by Rocker » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:34 pm

Thank you for this i enjoyed. Oh to have artistic talent ! its wonderful what different eyes can see A new perspective thanks.


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Post by spudseamus » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:27 am

strum was her father Tommy Merriman?



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Post by Strum » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:02 pm

I wouldn't have a clue Spud, but I'll ask if I see her.



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Post by Rocker » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:53 am

Was looking through photos especially one posted by Kelly Kid page 1 September 3rd 2009. The man in the centre is listed as Joe Kelly. I can't get over the uncanny likeness to a present day Kelly whose ancestors were the Kellys from Patrick Street Joinery works. Kelly Kid are they the same family?? Every time I go to DunLaoghaire I am struck by family likenesses (is that a word) but when one engages the youth in conversation they hardly know their grandparents let alone their extended family. In our day we had to listen to lists of exactly how x was related to y.


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Re: carlisle pier

Post by Murphs » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:13 pm

Sad News today as the Backers of the Business Centre planed for the Pier have anounced that they are pulling out of the Project



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Post by Toss » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:46 pm

Murphs wrote:Sad News today as the Backers of the Business Centre planed for the Pier have anounced that they are pulling out of the Project
Carlisle Pier is zoned Objective W in the County Development Plan 2016 – 2022. Objective W permits a broad range of regeneration combinations. Special Local Objective 16 relates specifically to Carlisle Pier and emphasises the cultural and amenity aspect of any future regeneration of this historic site. The DLRCC have control now, so lets see what they do as they are one third way through their development plan and have all the power.


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Post by Rocker » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:49 am

I haven't been able to find the developer's statement of 29 October but here is what is on the Council's website!

https://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general- ... ion-campus

must have a look at dear grammer's white elephant topic. He always had a nose for the white fella.

another side of the matter...

http://www.inshore-ireland.com/News/tec ... 7Tp_uGiWBU


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