Dun laoghaire Historical Society

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Dun laoghaire Historical Society

Post by Holla » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:26 pm

Wed 18th jan "Titanic---- locked in history"

speaker = Michael O Flaherty.

lectures take place in the kingston hotel Dun laoghaire at @ 8pm

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Post by spudseamus » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:28 am

is he goin to dance around the subject??? :lol:

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Post by Strum » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:40 am

Flatey Spud, that's Flatley! :lol:

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Post by spudseamus » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:02 am

I knew dat!!! 8-) :lol:

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Post by Enviro500 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:59 am

Spud,
Flatley , is that the rich guy with the "BUTLER"

I met him once with Christy Moore in my second favourite pub GOGGINS !!!!!!

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Post by Holla » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:34 pm

yiz are off topic follks ....... :roll:

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Post by Holla » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:57 pm

WEDNESDAY 15th FEBRUARY === " THE 1913 LOCKOUT " speaker Padraig yeates.

KINGSTON HOTEL DUN LAOGHAIRE @ 8pm

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Post by Enviro500 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:32 pm

Gang,
That's my ex wife's Life story.. Always locked me out, away from seeing the Postman........................,milkman.....................Insurance man.

.......Father O'Flaherty
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Post by Holla » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:26 pm

Just a little reminder ===


Holla wrote:WEDNESDAY 15th FEBRUARY === " THE 1913 LOCKOUT " speaker Padraig yeates.

KINGSTON HOTEL DUN LAOGHAIRE @ 8pm

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Post by Rocker » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:13 pm

Pity I cant attend. Wednesday seems to be the night everything is on. Best of luck with the meeting. Hope it is well attended.
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Post by Holla » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:34 pm

Rocker wrote:Pity I cant attend. Wednesday seems to be the night everything is on. Best of luck with the meeting. Hope it is well attended.
Unfortunately I wont be attending it myself rocker, Iam off work sick at the min,the question I was going to ask was about the term" scabby Dunleary"used by Dublin city folk mostly in reference to the coal harbour in Dun laoghaire still in operation during the "lockout" I would like to know if theres any truth in the saying.

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Post by Gulliver » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:39 pm

Well attended and very interesting

A Dun Laoghaire Man - James Byrne from 5 Clarence St was the first to die on hunger strike in that period. Buried in Deansgrange.
Full details here http://www.news4.ie/christmas2003/frame3/11.htm
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Post by Rocker » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:51 pm

Thank you Gulliver for this really interesting article. I really know so little about the time. My great Grandfather lived at Clarence Place which must have been nearby. I hope he knew Mr Byrne.
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Post by Denis Cromie » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:09 am

Great article Gulliver. I've been a proud member of a Trade Union all my working life and a supporter of the ideals of Connolly. To my shame I never before heard of James Byrne and how his life was sacrificed for his right to be a member of a Trade Union. How come there was never any Street in Dun Laoghaire named after him :?:

Sorry I missed the Society meeting on Wed,I had already made other arrangements.

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Post by Gulliver » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:05 pm

Denis Cromie wrote: How come there was never any Street in Dun Laoghaire named after him :?:
Perhaps it was got to do with the fact that the various strikes of the 1913 period did not have popular support in Ireland - but strangely had substantial support by the Trades unions in Britain. There was a lot of food parcels and even whole shiploads sent from Britain, but in Ireland, a fund set up for the strike breakers got more support. The tram drivers were in the forefront of the strikes, but the train drivers refused to support them.
The grave of Byrne was identified about 10 years ago in a very sorry state in Deansgrange, and a new headstone was put on it.
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Post by Rocker » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:58 pm

It is difficult to imagine what it must have been like to be alive in the early 1900's the workers were very subservient and poorly educated. In one of my jobs I had access to letters from workers to their employer in the 20's and 30's and it was all, I beg to beseech you and your obedient servant when they requested even the most basic human requirements.

It is marvellous that Mr Byrnes grave has been marked. Well done to all concerned.
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Post by Denis Cromie » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:12 pm

I well understand now Larkin's plea to tell the citizens to get up off their knees.

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Post by Enviro500 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:13 pm

Gang,
For those of you who are not aware here, one William Martin Murphy was Chairman oof the Dublin United Tramways Co,, the predecessors of C.I.E and also ran one of the the Nnational Newspapers, the name ecsapes me..Irishman born and bred he must rank as the no,1 BASTARD as a businessman in Ireland..Even the modern day naughty bankers could not match his actions or indeed insensitiveness towards his workers and general Dubliner of the working class ilke..

This was a man who oversaw Taliban prcatices etc.. The then Dublin Metropolitan Police were even in his pocket, also the loclal politicians and the Civil Servants in "The Castle"

The man was the orchestrator of the infamous Dublin Lockouts in the General Strike of 1913 and there is much blood on his hands. There is much written about this fellow but I suspect he is not well konwn to Dubliners today...Do taker the time to Google the name and look in..Evenn after the Treaty in 1922 the politicians of the new STATE looked after his interests... a Bad BASTARD indeed was W.Murphy

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Post by keeper » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:43 pm

Enviro ! What gives me the idea you are not impressed by one W.Murphy !! Sounds like he was a nasty bit of stuff, but, then a lot of our countrymen when they got any authority at all were cruel to their underlings and even more so when in other countries, I had the misfortune to meet expats in parts of the world who were bastards to the very people they were there to help, I was ashamed to be Irish and left several functions because of them. I remember my Dad having the same opinion of Mr Murphy, one of several in the Transport business he didn't think much of.

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Post by spudseamus » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:40 am

The whiskey Baron Jameson is another one --after I found out what that bastard did in the Congo i have not let a drop of the stuff pass me lips :evil:

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Post by Gulliver » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:59 am

Enviro500 wrote:Gang,
William Martin Murphy ..... and also ran one of the the Nnational Newspapers, the name ecsapes me..Irishman born and bred he must rank as the no,1 BASTARD as a businessman in Ireland..Even the modern day naughty bankers could not match his actions or indeed insensitiveness towards his workers and general Dubliner of the working class ilke..

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The newspaper he owned was the Irish Independent.
Surprisingly, the Independent gave some reasonable coverage of the strike/lockout.. but you've got to go to the Irish Times for a fuller coverage (which was surprisingly good, given the readership of that paper at that time)
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Post by Rocker » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:16 am

Enviro and Gulliver,
Yis had me up till 3am going through Google trying to read up on the lock out. Knew nothing till the other day. I found this article now I dont know who your man is or how biased it is but made me think and ask questions,
http://struggle.ws/ws88_89/ws29_1913.html

With all this reading I forgot to ask you Holla are you feeling any better since Wednesday
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Post by Holla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:20 pm

Rocker wrote:
With all this reading I forgot to ask you Holla are you feeling any better since Wednesday
Iam on the mend rocker thanks its slow and Iam still under house arrest,the site has some good posts at the moment so thats keeping me bizzy,you can only watch so much judge judy, how its made, or deadly catch :( :mrgreen:

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Post by Rocker » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:07 am

Holla wrote:the question I was going to ask was about the term" scabby Dunleary"used by Dublin city folk mostly in reference to the coal harbour in Dun laoghaire still in operation during the "lockout" I would like to know if theres any truth in the saying.
Holla,

Sputnik was just asking a similar question on the Lees topic. We must get to the root of this. There must be truth in the name!
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Re: Dun laoghaire Historical Society

Post by Gulliver » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:30 pm

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