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Mystery House

Post by IanDC » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 pm

Hello,

As promised yesterday here is my mystery photo:

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I believe my granny (Honora Kelly) lived in this house as a young girl (she loved it there!), around 1911 or so. The photo was taken in the late 50s or early 60s when she visited Dun Laoghaire again, and by that time the garden was a bit overgrown etc as you can see. Someone had told me that they thought the house was in Adelaide Street, but I've looked at Adelaide Street on 'streetview' and on old maps and I can't see anywhere that it could have been, so this could be a red herring. I know that the house isn't very clear in the photo, but it seems to me that although the house on the right is a type that is quite common in DL, the house on the left (Granny's house) is more unusual. There seems to be only windows and no door on this elevation. Does this mean that the house was on a corner with the door round the corner? Also the look of both houses are quite unusual due to the pillars between the windows etc. It would be great if someone knew where this house was (or had been). A few of you have asked for more info on the family but I don't want to make this post too long so I'll leave that til later. I look forward to any response.

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Re: Mystery House

Post by Snowhite » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:43 pm

Looks like Monkstown to me........


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Rocker » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:45 pm

Ian,

You have set us a task. We love the challenge and will start looking. At first glance I don't know it...but, never say never.
Just thought of the 1911 census. Did you find the family on that? Is that her aged 12 at Church Place off Sherriff St?


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Snowhite » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:51 pm

Just checked the census for 1911 and the only Honara Kelly for 1911 is this one in Cork, do any of the other names mean anything to you Ian, your gran's name is unusual.


Residents of a house 17 in Caherkeen (Coulagh, Cork)

Kelly Cornelius 51 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Julia 51 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Mary 25 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Bridget 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Abbie 19 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly John 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Julia 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Timothy 10 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Cork
Kelly Honara 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic.


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Strum » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:55 pm

Reminds me Albert Road in Sandycove. ???


Here we go again folks haha. On the left it looks live a curved Wall going around a corner but it could be the photo.



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Re: Mystery House

Post by IanDC » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:58 pm

Snowhite, thanks, but confusingly the family weren't in Dun laoghaire in 1911, but either just before or just after. They actually seem to have been in Coolrus, Co. Limerick in 1911. People seem to have moved about a lot in those days!



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Re: Mystery House

Post by Snowhite » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:01 am

Another Honara Kelly in 1901 Census. Cant find any in Limerick :?



Residents of a house 3 in Oriel Place (North Dock, Dublin)


Kelly Lawrence 60 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Kildare
Kelly Marta 2 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Dublin -
Kelly Margart 4 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Dublin -
Kelly Honara 6 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Dublin - Cannot read -
Kelly James 30 Male Head of Family Roman Chatholic Dublin Railway Labourer
Kelly Laurence 7 Male Son Roman Catholic Dublin
Kelly Patrick Male Son Roman Catholic Dublin
Kelly ass 28 Female Wife Roman Catholic Dublin


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Re: Mystery House

Post by IanDC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:04 am

I think she's down as being 'Nora' in the census.



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Post by Snowhite » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:10 am

Have you checked the Census yourself Ian, I cant seem to find her, only a Thomas Kelly in Coolrus Limerick. dontknow


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Re: Mystery House

Post by IanDC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:22 am

Yes I have a copy of it somewhere. But my bed is calling to me! Thanks for your comments tonight. I hope I haven't started another 'bear and cattle' situation.



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Post by Snowhite » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:26 am

Ah sure we needed a bit of excitement on here, we'll all be on the Hunt for that House now :lol: and ye never know we may even find the Bear House as well. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Rocker » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:52 am

Found a Nora Kelly in Coolrus in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... st/617153/

but that really doesn't help what we need to know is how a farm labourer and his family came to DunLaoghaire. Anyway we need to find the house so one yer bikes. I think you are right that the entrance is around the other side because they have let the hedge grow over the gate so it must have been unused.


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Gulliver » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:30 am

Have checked The Crescent, Monkstown.... It's not there.


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Post by Rocker » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:50 am

Me too also I googled street view Albert Road Lower...not there and Brighton Vale in Seapoint not there Summerhill near the park no also. It is that kind of era so must put on the thinking cap. Did your gran write anything on the back of the photo? maybe the house had a name and she might have referred to it by that>


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Post by Jemser » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:11 am

I thought that it looked like Sandycove Avenue, but looked on Google street view and no luck. However nothing beats cycling or walking to check things out properly.


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Sinead » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:23 pm

This house is very similar to those in The Crescent in Monkstown. Perhaps Honora was visiting relatives
in the house.

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Post by Strum » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:08 pm

Yes that's a good one Sinead. I'm trying to think of the places where the wall is that low. I'm pretty certain it's not in the town, Sandycove or Monkstown more likely.



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Re: Mystery House

Post by bugrock » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:27 pm

That looks like the road down to Sandycove Harbour, not Albert, the other one closest to Dalkey.


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Post by Strum » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:34 pm

bugrock wrote:That looks like the road down to Sandycove Harbour, not Albert, the other one closest to Dalkey.

Actually yes. That could be the corner house right beside the Beach.



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Re: Mystery House

Post by skins » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:38 pm

How about 10 Mulgrave Terrace.......no?


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Post by Strum » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:46 pm

skins wrote:How about 10 Mulgrave Terrace.......no?

Wall is too low. House is too small. ;) Good try Skins. :D



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Re: Mystery House

Post by grammer » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:56 pm

How about the sea road into Irishtown from Merrion gates -cant remember what that road is called

kinda looks like only the bottom story of the house/s is/are shown


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Post by Snowhite » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Gulliver wrote:Have checked The Crescent, Monkstown.... It's not there.
I really thought it was there, at first I thought it was a bungalow, but you can see how high the front door is on the one on the right is so it has to have steps. ?? Also you can see either a window or doorway through the hedge.


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Post by Snowhite » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:52 pm

Mulgrave Terrace ????????


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Re: Mystery House

Post by Strum » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:35 pm

Snowhite wrote:Mulgrave Terrace ????????

Wall is too low. Skins already said that. ;)



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