Toss wrote:From what I can gather, the builders cut corners on fixings and in doing so their work is questionable. For example, if a carpenter fixes a large fire resistant door using 20mm screws instead of the recommended 50mm because its handy .... the door will not be secure and stable for very long. Some builders will always use whatever they have at hand in order to save time and money (its the nature of the beast), but proper supervision should see this and stop the process. As I said previously, the needs of the education system for pupils and the rise in further education has led to a myriad of non-manual jobs in the construction industry. For example, heres a short list of site management roles :Snowhite wrote:I'm certainly no builder but I do recall my hubby (taxi driver) telling me about picking a guy up from a building site/ apartment block in the Pottery rd/ Johnstown rd area about 10 odd yrs ago and he said he wouldn't touch any of the apartments that were being built at that time with a barge pole, as they were not being built to certain standards, something to do with the external wall and internal wall cavity, isn't this what they are saying is wrong with the school buildings ?? If yes ....... Like everything that seems to come to light here it's only the tip of the iceberg.
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That list is far from complete, but it shows how the industry has changed as the race for qualifications evolved. It now takes 4/5 people to do what one person used to do and therein lies the problem ..... too many chiefs, too many opinions and too many filling the same space so you end up with chaos as they all blame each other when disaster strikes. All of the above are highly qualified people after being put through a third level course in order to have a label that puts them above a tradesman .... in doing this, they devalue the trades and we wonder why things go wrong ?
Plenty of interesting hearsay in your opinion Toss. But I wonder if a visceral point in your reasoning shows that we do need oversight and it must be delegated for it to be applicable and effective. When one issue is parsed by one individual it is arguable that only an unilateral application will be undertaken. Therefore it is wise to have multiple individuals empowered with oversight on any issue regarding our construction projects, however big and small.